Wow. Just wow lol. So many thoughts but can't even put it into words because of how ridiculous this whole thing is. Two things I will say: 1. Was pretty crazy listening to this guy basically argue that there is no honest way to make money in this space- that insider trading and botting meme coin launches is the "only" way to make money in this "game". This argument is then used to justify his actions- "I've asked people how to solve this problem but no one has given me an answer- so how else are we supposed to launch a meme coin and make money then?" Here's an idea Hayden- don't launch a fucking meme coin. Learn to trade- or better yet, build an actual product that solves a problem and charge a fee to use said product. If it works well and there is demand for it it will generate revenue and hopefully, ultimately, a profit (we call this "utility", check out @CurveFinance for a good example!). Yes, both of these require actual effort, unlike creating a memecoin out of thin air that does nothing, solves nothing, and can't actually be used for anything- but you asked, so there's your answer. 2. After watching this interview I do believe this whole event is probs going to be pretty historically significant in the meme-coin meta. It may not be the end of them but they will not be looked at the same moving forward as people's eyes are finally opened to how much of a rigged game the whole meta is. Pretty freaking insane. Give it a watch.